Renewable energy and water.. MID, City of Modesto.. where ya at?

I just read a great article about an Australian inventor that has created a windmill that extracts water from the air. A very doable technology that the federal government has be handing money out hand over fist for development for some thirsty troops in Iraq.

"...With three or four of Max's magical machines on hills at our farm we could fill the tanks and troughs, and weather the drought. One small Whisson windmill on the roof of a suburban house could keep your taps flowing. Biggies on office buildings"

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21123007-12272,00.html

Now this got me thinking of Energy and Water in Modesto...

It's a fact that the water level in Modesto wells have dropped continuously over the last few decades. The problems are numerous and various (lots of people and the need to feed those people). Yet I haven't heard much in the way of solutions for fixing this problem other than drill deeper wells (very novel).

I want to Challenge the City of Modesto and MID to do something innovative. Create a Public Group that looks into alternative energy and water resources.

Now the reason I have MID in my title is their slacking just as much if not more. The MID has been living of their "Green" credit from using energy from Don Pedro dam for far to long.. (60 years old? not impressed anymore).

I appreciate that new green technologies are expensive and unproven but how long can you wait? With new improvements in solar technologies you could create a solar farm right next to your main facility.

People provably don't know much about the old FMC plant site and why it lays fallow (between Kansas, Woodland, the 99 and 9th St.). It was the site of a fairly nasty chemical plant up until the 80s when it was finally shut down. Now I don't know who owns it but from what I understand it's been cleaned up to the current environmental standards... great! I also understand that it won't sell because who knows how those environmental standards may change in the future after the purchase.

Fine don't buy it MID.. lease it and build a solar farm! Heck.. start by putting pannels in your employee parking lots (make them so they protect the vehicles from the rain.. bam dual porpose).

Check this article out:
http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/003956.html

Boeing has announced a 40% efficiency in solar electricity collection.

I think we need to demand more from our utilities then just buying ruinable energy credits on the open market. I think that our utilities should be searching for ways to decentralize the power grid and look for other ways to provide for the needs of it's customers.

The time for cheap unseen energy is running out and it's KILLING us...

Thank you angryf

This is a great post! There is a lot of new and innovative technology out there like this, it's good to see people actively calling for it locally.

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good challenge Angryf

good challenge for the city of Water, wealth?, contentment? health.
your points on the old FMC plant a good one. Technology has improved on solar panels, etc. Thanks for posting real stuff on modestofamous.com today. jim

Responsible water management, renewable energy

Good questions, Angryf. I’ll try to hit the highlights and give numbers to call for more info. Good way to stay current on these issues is to read the monthly newsletter with your MID electric bill. Also check www.mid.org, click on About MID, then Annual Report.
Water resources – True, back in the 1980s groundwater was pumped out faster than nature could replenish it, especially in central Modesto. Modesto Irrigation District (MID) and the City of Modesto (City) developed a plan to accomplish several things:
-Provide dependable, long-term drinking water supply for the City
-Begin to recharge City wells
-Find beneficial, local use for MID water no longer needed by agriculture.
Since 1994 MID has treated Tuolumne River water at the Modesto Regional Water Treatment Plant. We provide 30 million gallons a day (mgd) of drinking water wholesale to the City, about half their total supply. MID surface water has supplemented City well water for more than 10 years now. This is called “conjunctive use.� Together with water conservation, it makes the best use of all the water resources you have in good water years and bad. Lots more exciting stuff going on now. Modesto phasing in water meters; encourages conservation. MID ready todouble treatment plant capacity to 60 mgd, using new membrane technology. Multi-agency groundwater study finishing up. 6 local agencies have agreed to coordinate how they manage well fields. 3-D predictive computer model of Modesto groundwater basin under development. More info: MID Water Operations, 209 526-7563. Want technical? see links at http://www.mid.org/about/water/default.htm

Renewable energy – In 2003 MID set a goal to meet 20% of customer energy needs with renewable resources by 2017; later this became a state requirement. We’re ahead of schedule! Last year MID resources included 6% wind power; this year ext. 11% wind. Wind is the least expensive renewable resource; cost close to natural gas. Currently trying to finalize contract with a biomass plant that will burn municipal wood waste (leftovers from construction sites). If this deal goes through, we’ll be up to 16% renewable by next year. (Note: The 20% is in addition to* our Don Pedro hydro and hydro we buy from San Francisco’s Hetch Hetchy system. By state law, hydro facilities producing more than 30 megawatts (mega=million) can’t be counted as renewable resources.) More info: MID Energy Resources, 209 526-7550.
So why doesn’t MID switch to all renewable energy? All energy resources have advantages and disadvantages. MID believes a diverse mix is the best way to protect customers from risk and keep electric rates as low as possible - that's quite a challenge anyway. Examples:
--Hydropower depends on Mother Nature. No snowpack means no water to spin the turbines. But if available, hydro is low-cost.
- With natural gas-fired plants, the big risk is natural gas prices. MID isn’t a gas company. We buy natural gas just like you do. Older plants have emissions concerns. Newer gas turbines like MID’s are very clean-burning.
--Wind doesn’t always blow on the hottest days when the most electricity is used.
--Solar power is expensive, chiefly because the technology is relatively inefficient at converting light into electricity. There are other technical issues, too. MID installed a demo solar project on the roof of our building in downtown Modesto last year. We’re learning a lot from it.
Rebates – MID is developing a solar rebate program; details to be announced around June. People are usually disappointed when we explain: A typical 2.5 kilowatt residential solar installation costs roughly $16,000-$24,000. Lots of cash, even with an MID rebate, the payback could take up to 30 years. The economics could improve significantly in the next few years, if some of these technology gains make it out of the test lab and into the marketplace. Of course money isn’t the only reason for buying a solar system, but money motivates a lot of people. More info: MID Marketing, 209 526-7455.
Energy costs and electric rates – Hate to end on a downer, but reality is what it is. People are excited about renewable energy for a lot of good reasons. Contrary to popular myth, however, renewable energy usually costs more. If having more renewable energy drives MID’s power costs up, then electric rates will most likely go up. The good news for customers is that MID is a public power agency; owned by customers; operated on a not-for-profit basis.
Bottom line here - MID is already doing more than you may realize. We're always looking for ways to improve. We appreciate hearing from customers. Peace to all. - Kate Hora, Public Affairs Dept., MID 209 526-7454 kateho@mid.org